My thread was NOT a "just get over it thread". It takes different kinds of people different amount of time to adapt to the change. In religious situations, many people act irrationally towards those who reject their beliefs.
The point of my thread was introductory. It would be presumptuous for me to come into a forum I never posted in and tell it's members to get over it. That was not my intention at all and assumptions based off of my poor communication skills should not be that I am telling anyone to fell. think, or do, anything.
On a regular basis, I make an effort to not use words like "you" and try to add words like "some" as much as possible in order to not generalize. I have social anxiety issues where I like to over clarify myself, and I don't like to put people in a position where they have to clarify.
We are all equal working together to work out issues or passively make commentary that will unexpectedly assist others in developing knowledge.
Just because my thread struck a nerve should not mean that I should be made a poster child for "just get over it", especially since that was not the intention. If I wanted to say it I would post a thread with that title and be much more aggressive.
I was posting mt experience and posting my thought pattern as a way of introduction, simply that.
Edit: as a side point I am not ignorant to the plight of the disfellowshipped, as I have mentioned before, several of my family members have been and have suffered depression, anxiety, suicide attempts, chronic relationship failure (paranoia induced), sexual dysfunction, and other mental/emotional issues. I have yet to experience the worst, which will be when I get married, as my parents will then be sure I am not returning (they still think I'll one day turn around).
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Who else is tired of the Just Get Over It threads?
by sass_my_frass ini have started this thread so that every time i see a new one i can point out how old that idea is.
congratulations.
it's great that you have obviously been able to get out without being harmed in some way - really, i'm happy for you.
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Critics Choice: A JW WindowsLive Spaces Statement
by NotaNess inhis home page statement is: .
i'm a huge black guy, but if you talked to me on the phone, you'd think i was lying.
i'm a jehovah's witness, and my god jehovah is very important to me.
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Windows live spaces and other photo sites are awesome to post pictures of yourself as well! Especially if you're a smashed flat out obvious in a photograph drunk.
I sometimes see drunk party pictures in the same reel as convention ones...they could at the LEAST make it friends only.
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Coffee time?
by Ex Nihilo inwhen you used to go out in service (or if you still do) what was the coffee time?
that's the time that you usually look at your watch and say "oh hey let's go for coffee then do a few more!
"...or worse...did you not take one in morning service?
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When you used to go out in service (or if you still do) what was the coffee time? That's the time that you usually look at your watch and say "Oh hey let's go for coffee then do a few more!"...or worse...did you not take one in morning service?
Where I come from at 11am every coffee shop fears waves of Jehovah's witnesses coming in. It got so bad at a few shops they had to start being rude to them to get them to leave. -
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Experiences of bethelites from around the world
by ldrnomo init would be nice to hear from former bethelites from around the world.
there stories while they were at bethel good or bad..
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^ That made me smile ear to ear.
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blood card
by 4digitcode ini went through my 10 year stay in the truth not knowing a whole lot about any of the teachings i realize.
i knew of them, knew the rules cause i read them all the time in the km,wt,awake....but i couldn't explain most of my beliefs with the bible.
i entered the faith at 13 years old, on my own and guess what at 13 years old with no parents pressuring me i really didn't like studying.
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I don't think they should have allowed you to feel pressured over such an issue. I can see if you had asked agbout it, but not randomly like that.
Personally I won't take blood, not because of a witness family, but because my family has several nurses that are non witnesses, and have had surgery insisting on no blood.
I honestly can't say what I would do if I was dying... I think getting blood from an unknown source is kind of gross, and although I don't mind samples being drawn, I ahve severe phobias of things going into me through needles.
I have my card still to hide behind if I am temporarily out so they can ask me, but when admitted into hospital, I don't say anything until it comes up. -
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are you more 'active' now than when you were in?
by 4digitcode inmetapsy brought up a good point in one of his/her replies to a post earlier.
(sorry metapsy,am still new here) .
i have done more studying on the witnesses now that i'm out than i ever did while i was in!!!
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I used to be the nerd who studied every book I could for the weekly meeting despite working 8 hours a day and 2 hours of service almost every day.
I don't touch a darn thing now. I have all the books and only reference it when my boyfriend/netbuddies asks me the odd question, and I need better words than I can normally supply. -
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who's fault is it?
by bigdreaux inwhen it comes to the society, are they to blame for the control they use upon the members, or is it the peoples fault?
should we blame the society for tricking people?
or is it the people that let themselves be tricked?
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I blame myself. I went along with it because it made me happy at the time, even though I didn't think god was there. I got baptized for a number of reasons, not devotion related.
I think the society in a way is a bunch of regular JW's with more power, they themselves are scared of breaking rules, so they make more, enforce them harder and whatnot.
I met several higher ups. They are regular guys that make mistakes and a lot have been to jail, suffered hardship, and had many trials, not saying they are incapable of crimes against fellow humans, but that they too are human.
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Blood Transfusions...
by zeroday ini found this on another board.... i asked a physican at the nurse's station to talk one night.
since there was no one around (night shift), we had time to talk.
i will answer your question with an example.
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Ex Nihilo
Some surgery is done where the blood is sucked out and pumped back in without a break in the link. Many people feel this is acceptable and consider it an alternative to transfusion.
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YOU SEEN THESE JW SINGLES DATING SITES??
by Cordelia ini only seen one it was so funny.
is there any in the uk.
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The society is hard against them.
I have resisted temptation to call up non JW friends and get them to figure out the KM songs so that I can join and cause trouble.
It would probably be a bad idea though.
They could have come up with a better security system. I hope for the members sakes that they do not come under harm because of it, at the same time, flat rational me says, that they get what they deserve.
I remember one DO saying that no self respecting christian would go on those sites, I really hoped nobody in that audience was a member, when I looked on the site though, people in our district were indeed there. -
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Letters to old friends
by Billzfan23 infor those of you who know my story, i was an elder/cong book study overseer/school overseer just about 9 1/2 months ago now.
when the rest of you faded and left (as i have since then) - did any of you write letters to your old friends in the hall explaining your decision and exposting the borg as the fraud that it is?
if so, what was your response, if any?.
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I didn't fade, I just severed, while still living at home. Out of respect and to make the adjustment easier for family, I went to one day of the convention.
<br><br>My more free spirited associates, who are still deeply in the truth and pioneers, but used to be DF'ed kids knew where I was going and all Hugged me very tight (even the boys which some may consider inappropriate in public) they knew they wouldn't see me for a very long time if ever.
<br><br>My friend who almost died in the hospital and who I took care of when I was very sick myself, didn't even ******* look at me, but I don't blame her since she gets ticked off if someone is doing anything off of what the rules are.
<br><br>I didn't want to unconvert anyone or anything. In my philosophy, I let people figure stuff out for themselves unless they say they are broken and need help. When my parents wanted to know why I was leaving, I said I didn't want to debate it because I didn't want to be an unconverter.
<br><br>I'm pretty happy with the way it went. I don't often look back, but it still hasn't set in with many of them that I actually left because it happened so fast.